Updates to exam

  • I've heard that 70-486 will be updated during 2014 to include ASP.NET MVC5, WebAPI2, Entity Framework 6, Azure Portal, and Visual Studio 2013. First it was said that March was the update month (http://borntolearn.mslearn.net/btl/b/weblog/archive/2014/01/08/exam-certification-update-mcsd-web-applications.aspx#fbid=Ijq_CI5d1KV?comments) but when you read the comments further down it seems that the update has been postponed a few months.

    Does anyone have any more information about this? 

  • Ohlin, I have not heard of any updates on this.  Since this is a general forum that is not routinely monitored by Microsoft Learning personnel, I would recommend asking this question in a monitored forum so that you can get an official response more quickly.

    Christopher Reed, MCT, MCSD, MCPD, Microsoft Specialist, MCTS, MTA
    "The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."

  • Ok, I'll do that. Thanks!

  • I am starting on my journey for the 486. I have programmed in COBOL for over 10 years and PL/SQL for about 3 years. This past year I was put into the Web Team and helped out with web forms. I am hoping to pass this test before the year is over. Should I study MVC4 or MVC5 and does it matter if I study both. This year we will be migrating and start developing our web apps in MVC4. Should I just stick to MVC4?

    Thanks

    Robert

  • Going back to Ohlin's original question, it is my understanding that the exams will be updated with the next two months, but I have not seen any further information on this.

    Given this update, Robert, the new purpose of the MCSD cert for Web Apps is to be a general, ongoing certification of your capabilities in ASP.NET MVC and supporting technologies.  This is why there's a recertification exam now every two years.  In other words, for the purpose of the exam and to keep you up-to-date with the latest Microsoft technology, you might be best served to start learning the newer MVC 5 material along with Web API 2 and EF6, etc. In your preparation, always change track of the difference (and most likely newer features) between MVC 5 and MVC 4 so you can know this for both the exam and when you are on a project, depending on whether you're using MVC 4 or 5.

    Christopher Reed, MCT, MCSD, MCPD, Microsoft Specialist, MCTS, MTA
    "The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."

  • Hi, All:

    Sorry for the delayed response.  Working on posting details on updates to Exams 486 and 487 now.  Will provide details in my certification blog by end of week, with broader communication via MCT and MCP newsletters shortly thereafter.

    Regards,

    Larry Kaye

    Senior Product Manager - Developer Certification

    Microsoft Learning Experiences

  • Hi Ohlin,

    I've checked on Prometric site

    www.microsoft.com/.../exam-70-486.aspx

    and it  mentions that indeed starting on April 30th 2014,  questions on 70-486 will cover ASP.NET MVC5, WebAPI2, Entity Framework 6, Azure Portal, and Visual Studio 2013.

    There's a .pdf file you can download which resumes a list of the main changes which will be brought

    and effective as of April 30, 2014

    download.microsoft.com/.../OD_Changes-486.pdf

    Hope this helps.

  • Larry,

    Do you know if and when the corresponding courses will be updated to reflect these changes?

    Thanks!

    Christopher Reed, MCT, MCSD, MCPD, Microsoft Specialist, MCTS, MTA
    "The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."

  • Are there any practice exams for 486?

    The material seems straightforward, but I would still like to take a shot at something to give me an idea of what the exam will be like.

    I took the 483 exam, and the practice test from MeasureUp, while not really covering the test material, did challenge me to check into areas that I was weak on.

    I could probably use a similar approach to this one and the 487.

  • You can get the Exam Refs for each from the Microsoft Press Store (which is now through InformIT.com).  Also, there are some jump starts available @ Microsoft Virtual Academy.

    Remember, take the test before April 30th and it's still based on VS 2012.

    Christopher Reed, MCT, MCSD, MCPD, Microsoft Specialist, MCTS, MTA
    "The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."

  • I just took the traning class for this exam and the book I received covers the old content.

    How can I get the updated book?

    Will I need to take the traning again?

  • The general guidance from LeX is that if an exam changes TOO much, it will get a new exam number. Generally, when an exam is updated, the update the terminology, refer to current products (VS2013 instead of VS2012, etc) and tweak a objectives.

    The will always give a guide that explicitly details how the exam has changed.  When you see that change list, it may seem daunting.  However, remember this: the exam has to change dramatically to get a new number.  If you're already prepared for a test and it get's updated, you're probably only about a week out from refreshing some new terms and a new trick or two.

    The short answer is this.  They are testing the same core concepts. If you have those concepts down, you'll be fine.

  • I'm planning to take exam 70-486 soon as well. I'm debating if I should wait to take it after April 30th or take it before April 30th (before the updates happen). I'm not on a strict timeline to get certified. So I wonder if I should wait to take it after the change to benefit from a longer renewal period since the exam will be updated with new materials? Does any know how the renewal period is defined? Is it exactly 2 years from the date they issue the certification? Is it every 2 years after an update to an exam was released?

    If I have to renew the exam in 2 years which will cover the update happening on April 30/May 1st then I might as well wait, because I have to know these updated materials anyway.

  • I don't know if there is an "official" answer to this yet, as there has yet to be a case where it has happened.  The official literature only says an MCSD must be renewed every two years.

    It is difficult for devs because of the lack of a MCSA level.  The idea of the MCSA / MCSE distinction is that the MCSA is for a product and is lifetime. The MCSE is for a "concept" and must be kept up to date.

    I would assume they would do something similar to the old upgrade tests.  It is usually a test or two that covers the changes since the last test. If I were to set everything up, I would release the continuing education test (the upgrade) and give a window before the old certs retired.  However, since we don't know for sure, I can't say for sure.

    I do have lots of email address that end in @microsoft.com, so I'll see what I can find...

  • @NKD, to follow up with Chris's comments above, as I understand this, recertification is required every two years from the time of your last certification.  This is not like the upgrades as this should be testing on the current expectations for that particular certification, meaning that these exams should be updated as the technology changes.  The certification as a whole is a living process where the recertification process is used to make sure that we are staying up to date with the latest information.  Of course, as Chris mentioned as well, this is not an "official" position, only my understanding of the process.

    Christopher Reed, MCT, MCSD, MCPD, Microsoft Specialist, MCTS, MTA
    "The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."