The New MCSAs and MCSEs, Your Questions Answered...

The New MCSAs and MCSEs, Your Questions Answered...

Erika Cravens

Hi Everyone!

As hopefully you all have seen, about two and a half weeks ago we announced our new cloud-enabled certifications – Microsoft Certified Solutions Associate (MCSA) and Microsoft Certified Solutions Expert (MCSE)! We have had lots of great questions come through about all the changes we have made and we wanted to make sure you all have the answers to these questions in one place.

I have the MCITP: EA and/or MCITP: SA. What do the changes mean to me?

It seems there is confusion and concern regarding the existing MCITP: Enterprise Administrator and MCITP: Server Administrator certifications and what they mean moving forward in this new program. The MCITP: EA and MCITP: SA are still the certifications to strive for on Windows Server 2008 technology. The MCSA: Windows Server 2008 was created solely as a pre-requisite for the new MCSE: Private Cloud certification.

Those of you that already earned the MCITP: EA were granted the MCSA: Windows Server 2008 certification as a way for us to acknowledge the expertise you already have. They are not considered equivalent certifications.

I have the MCITP: VA. What do the changes mean to me?

For those of you that have achieved the MCITP: Virtualization Administrator certification, this still remains a very valuable certification. For those of you on the path to achieving the MCITP: VA, keep on moving. Many organizations are looking for individuals with virtualization skills. As for moving into our new program, if you passed exam 659, you have passed one of the 5 exams required for the MCSE: Private Cloud certification. If you haven't already passed your Windows Server exams, we recommend you pursue the MCSA: Windows Server 2008. We have a promotion running now through June to help, if you are interested - buy your MCSA.

You announced MCSA: WS 2008, but why isn’t there an MCSE for Windows Server?

I think there is some confusion about that we announced the MCSA: Windows Server 2008 certification, but yet there are no MCSE certifications announced for Windows Server. The MCSA and MCSE certifications based on Windows Server 2012 technology will be announced in the near future. When we announce the MCSA and MCSE certifications based on Windows Server 2012, we will be providing upgrade paths for all of you that have earned the MCITP: SA and/or MCITP: EA certifications, making it easier to transition in to the new program. Eventually (within about a year or so), you will see that the pre-requisite for the MCSE: Private Cloud certification will then require the MCSA on Windows Server 2012 technology. Additionally, for those of you that have passed exam 659: TS: Windows Server 2008 R2, Server Virtualization and now have the MCSA: Windows Server 2008 certification, you only have one exam left to earn the new MCSE: Private Cloud certification (exam 246).

What is MCSA: SQL Server 2008 about, and how does it lead to the new MCSE: DP or MCSE: BI?

Similar to the MCSA: Windows Server 2008 certification, we have awarded the new MCSA: SQL Server 2008 certification. Those individuals who have passed exam 432: Microsoft SQL Server 2008, Implementation and Maintenance and exam 448: Microsoft SQL Server 2008, Business Intelligence Development and Maintenance have now been granted the MCSA: SQL Server 2008 certification. You are now one step closer to achieve the MCSE: Data Platform and/or the MCSE: Business Intelligence certification.

I’m excited about the new certifications and titles! But what was going on with the new logos?

For those of you that already saw your new certification and tried to access your new logos, you may have seen the logos were incorrect. Thank you to all of you who let us know this issue was happening. The issue is now fixed and we apologize for any inconvenience.

We hope this information is helpful and if you have questions let us know.

Have a great day!

Erika

Comments
  • Hemine Turner
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    MCSAssociate (new) shows up on my transcript but still no certificate or logo.  There are however 2 MCSAdmin logos (I have earned one in the past).  When I called last week (4/25/12), I was told that it would be another week before they showed up.

  • Thaek
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    Hi Erika

    Thanks for those useful information's.

    About the MCSA: SQL Server 2008: Quote: "Those individuals who have passed exam 432: Microsoft SQL Server 2008, Implementation and Maintenance and exam 448: Microsoft SQL Server 2008, Business Intelligence Development and Maintenance have now been granted the MCSA: SQL Server 2008 certification. You are now one step closer to achieve the MCSE: Data Platform and/or the MCSE: Business Intelligence certification."

    Does this mean that the MCSA on SQL Server 2008 can be used as a prerequisite for the MCSE: Data Platform or MCSE: Business Intelligence instead of the MCSA on SQL Server 2012.  If not - what's the point of introducing the MCSA on SQL Server 2008? Because for the MCSA on Windows Server 2008 you wrote that it was "created solely as a pre-requisite for the new MCSE: Private Cloud certification."

    Daniel

  • Anonymous
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    Are these new certifications related to MCSE: Security, MCSA: Security, MCSE: Messaging and MCSA: Messaging and the old MCSE (Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer) or do we now have two acronyms from the same company that now mean two completely different things?

  • Anonymous
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    Confused - We do now have two acronyms from the same company that now mean two completely different things.

    The 'old' MCSE is Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer. The 'old' MCSA is Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator.

    The 'new' MCSE is Microsoft Certified Solutions Expert. The 'new' MCSA is Microsoft Certified Solutions Associate.

  • Anonymous
  • Erika Cravens
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    @ Hermine - thanks for letting me know. I have re-escalated for resolution.  My apologies.

    @Thaek - Great question!  The MCSA SQL Server 2008 can be used to upgrade to the MCSA SQL Server 2012, which is the pre-requisite to the MCSE: Business Intelligence and MCSE: Data Platform.  So, this reduces down the amount of exams to take to achieve the certifications based on SQL Server 2012 technology.  

    The MCSA: Windows Server 2008 is the pre-requisite for the MCSE: Private Cloud because System Center 2012 currently only runs on Windows Server 2008.  

    @ Confused - the MCSA and MCSE are in fact the same acronyms used previously in the program, but yet the new acronyms mean something different.  The difference primarily being that the new MCSA and MCSE are focused on incorporating cloud technologies and solutions with mulitple technologies.  

    Thanks and keep the questions coming!

  • Anonymous
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    "Those of you that already earned the MCITP: EA were granted the MCSA: Windows Server 2008 certification as a way for us to acknowledge the expertise you already have. They are not considered equivalent certifications."

    How can they NOT be considered equivalent?  You are granting people who earned the MCITP:EA the MCSA, but they are not equivalent?  Both require passing the exact same 3 exams but they are not equivalent?

    If I am in the process of taking the 640/642/646 set of exams, what am I going to be granted when I'm finished?

  • Anonymous
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    I still have no digital certificate for MCSA: Win 2008 on my MCP website.

    Logo's and transcript is OK.

    MCP ID: 2630291 - Certification number: D713-6349

    - When will the certificate be available?

    - Why is there No MCSA: Win 2008 R2?

  • Anonymous
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    Jeroen - The Windows Server 2008 exams were all updated to include R2 content around the end of 2010, but they don't change the certification name to indicate that.

  • Alfredo Arizaleta
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    Dears, using old acromins to represent new things will only leave the job market in confusion. They are still trying to understand the change from MCSE to MCITP. This will left MCITP meaning nothing. This was the very same comments when Microsoft changed the meaning of MCSE on Windows 2008 and in use since 1995.  Certainly, Microsoft got ANSI recognition in 2009 for the program from the MCITP program

    (www.ansi.org/.../news_story.aspx).

    It could be more interesting and consistent I think, to follow the idea as MCITP: Private Cloud or to add certification to the existing base of knowledge as MCITP.

    Alfredo Arizaleta

  • Anonymous
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    Absolutely terrible, MS still continue to degrade the value of the MCITP:EA by giving no eqivilent in the new MCSE / MCSA offerings. Thanks for the MCSA but it doesn't cut it when I could have just got the MCITP:SA

    Essentially you have just crapped on all the people that went to the extra effort for the EA, which WAS viewed by us and IT Managers as the equivlent to the MSCE as it was the top level cert without going to the master level.

    Certification numbers have and do continue to drop and how am I going to be motivated to sit another round of MS exams when you do this to me, I'm not the only EA thats pissed by the insult of giving me an MCSA.

    Fix this and stop ignoring the people that pay your salary via our exams fees, we are after all prolific exam sitters and I and many other EA's have a long history of sitting MS exams

  • Garrett Stevens
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    Why not MCSE: Windows Server 2008 for those of us that are Enterprise Admins?  I agree with the anonymous poster above.  It makes those of us feel that we wasted additional time and money to be classified the same as the Server Admin group that didn't have to study as much as we did. :(

  • pradeep.shah
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    I have spent ages trying to get my MCITP:EA and now you treat people like me with total disdain. I think that you should have done the following:

    Given MCSA 2008 to MCITP:SA

    Given MCSA 2012 to MCIPT:EA

    That would have shown that Microsoft do value people who have spent time & money trying to pass 5 exams.