MCITP: Windows 7, Enterprise Desktop Support Technician certification update

I passed 680 and 685, they show up in my transcript but no MCITP.
Will i receive my mcitp certificate, by passing these exams if the beta is becoming regular?
Wat kind of additional requirements would be nessasarydfff, are they also from Microsoft or your new partner?

Hello,
I'm a MCSE for Windows Server 2003 and I wan't to update my certification to MCITP: Windows Server 2008 Enterprise Admin. I have already passed 70-647 and now i'm preparing for 70-649. I think that it doesn't make sense to learn for a vista exam (70-620 or 70-624) to get the Enterprise Administrator Certification, now that Windows 7 is released. Is it possible to take one of the Win 7 Exams instead of the Vista for getting the Windows Server 2008 Enterprise Administrator certification?

LOL. Another fail. Typical MSLearn style. First you have told one will need stupid 200$ HDI exam also. Looks that you have realized that no one would pay for that - I have seen opinions from more than dozen persons that have passed beta of 685 - no one I repeat NO ONE from them would pay that much for stupid windows client exam.

So typical for MSLearn - make [stupid] decision without thinking about consequences.

Hope there won't be third Bus Tour this year and maybe MSLearn will find some time to fix some stupid decision made in a rush to pollute earth with pointless Bus Tours.

I wonder how is that possible that after so many failed decisions we haven't heard about flying chairs and fired managers in MSLearn...

Another good question is: are there chances that MCSA/MCSE +M will be updated to newer MS Exchanges. MCSA/E +M is based on Exchange 2003 - wonder how no one noticed that there are two newer versions of Exchange. It is more strange because +S is updated and includes newer ISA 2006.

I'm not sure what you're complaining about, except just to complain. The MCSA+M and MCSE+M were still System Administrator or System Engineer certs. It just means that they took a messaging exam for their elective. It's basically saying that you have the MCSA/MCSE skillset, and you know some Exchange.

In the new generation certs they are broken out by job roles. Someone with an MCSA+M or MCSE+M can upgrade their core certification (Systems Administrator or Systems Engineer) to the 2008 version of the certs by taking the 70-648 (MCSA) or 70-649 (MCSE) exams and the appropriate PRO exam (70-646 for Server Administrators and 70-647 for Enterprise Administrators).

If someone has an MCSA+M or MCSE+M and they want to get an MCITP for messaging then they have to start the messaging-specific MCITP track. There is no upgrade path from an MCSA/MCSE to MCITP: Enterprise Messaging Adminsitrator because they are two completely different skillsets.

Yes, you can take 70-680 instead of one of the Vista exams. It is documented here:

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certifi...

I don't think there is any need to be abusive is there "me"?

The reason for this (i believe) is that the HDI exams are not available in the UK and I think quite a lot of Europe. I don't really think that Microsoft can be blamed for a third parties failure to propogate their certifications outside of the US (unless you again point out that they live in a very US-centric bubble where certifications are concerned and are often guilty of failure to fully take into account their decisions affects outside of the US).

Whilst you slag off the bus tour, the above may not have come to light if it were not for a conversation had with Liberty on the very same bus tour you think was a waste of time.

It wasn't complain it was question. MCSA/MCSE[+S] path is updated with MCTS certs for ISA 2006, Vista and Windows 7. Isn't it strange that +M is left with only Exchange 2003, while we have Exchange 2010 now. For me it is... Why +S was updated and +M isn't?

You pass 70-236 and, if you are MCSE: M, you will be (ta-da!): MCSE:M AND TS: Exchange 2007, Configuring technology specialist. Same thing as MCSE:S AND TS: ISA 2006.

Who says everyone should have MCITP: EDST? Why even bother to go for a beta if you don't want to pursue cert to the end? You don't enroll at college and then complain that you don't need some classes or that there is no real-life value in that. You don't buy a car and then complain that your favourite color is discontinued after five years or that steering wheel isn't elliptical.
You either accept and go for it and be the best possible professional you can or go after something else.

Im going to be pretty pissed off if the HDI requirement is removed from the MCITP EDST 7 stuff. I purposely did not do the 70-685 in beta because I did not plan on doing the ridiculous HDI requirement later on, so if its removed then that screws me on doing the beta and ultimately helping MS with the material.

Now i'll have to pay for the upgrade exam if I want to renew that cert, because of misleading/false information.

Who wants to shoot me a free exam voucher?

I think there is confusion around MCITP: EDST7 (with HDI) and the MCITP:EDA7 that we talked about in this thread when we announced HDI - http://borntolearn.mslearn.net/2009/07/microsof...

I'll check up on it and see what's going on.

Hopefully the information on the MCDST upgrade exam (70-682) will be available soon! :) And hopefully so will the results of the 686 beta

No HDI for me either

While I can see why you might be frustrated, I'm a little confused on the "free exam voucher". You had an opportunity to take an MS exam for free while it was in beta, but passed on it. Now you want to take the exam, but because you passed on it when it was in beta you feel like you should get it for free now?

Beta exams aren't a right or a privilege, they're just an opportunity that is out there. Loads of people wanted to take the exam but couldn't get registered in time. Does that mean that they are entitled to a free exam too?

Call me crazy, but I always take every beta exam that I that is available if it is related to my career path in some way. Maybe I'll choose not to pursue the higher-level cert later, but get it while it's free now.

Speaking of which, are there still plans to have an MCITP level cert around system center or virtualization?

Yes for virtualization, not sure for system center.

No confusion.

I am aware of both paths, and I did take the 70-686 in beta. I skipped the 70-685 because I was not planning on taking the HDI cert to complete the MCITP: EDST 7 (not eda), because i think its ridiculous. Now the plans have apparently changed for EDST 7, and if all I end up needing is the 685 then I will be upset at the fact that the info changed after the fact.

I can still take the 682 upgrade, but thats beside the point.