Free vouchers – going, going…

But whether or not you win a free voucher, you’ll definitely have to pay for paper cert.

This is awesome

:-) Free vouchers Rule!

" But whether or not you win a free voucher, you’ll definitely be informed of Microsoft Learning news, insights, and opportunities as they happen!" Does it mean that your new information policy is to release news when they "happen" like you have done with "going green" with 11 days before deadline?

Me, we announced the digital certificate news on June 1st--a full month before the transtion date. http://borntolearn.mslearn.net/2009/06/going-green-mcp-digital-certificates-are-here

That makes big difference - lol. How many of 2.5Mln MCP and MCTS people are subscribed to this blog RSS ? Is this blog a new place for such news? When it was posted on MCP/MSLearning sites? MCP/MCTS newsletter was send 11 days before deadline!!! That is why you got so many negative comments under above link after MCP newsletter. Will you ever answer about frauding MCTS people in 2007 and 2008?

Me, I think you might have missed the context of this post. :-) My point was that those folks who subscribe to this blog knew about the change well before the MCP Flash went out--the Flash newsletters have a very long lead time, which is why we re actively encouraging everyone to subscribe to our blog to get news as it happens, instead of weeks later. And I apologize--I did not see a question about MCTS fraud. You ve made a lot of comment posts, many of them repetitive, so it s possible that I missed it if it was appended to another comment. We certainly want to follow up on any cases of fraud, so would you mind reposting it here please?

I m in. :^)

Ken it is not exhausted debate yet for me. Some MCTS people were promised to become MCP by your own learning site. If I recall correctly MSL sites have stated that passing MCTS doesn’t make MCP weeks after Trika post. Up to this date those people were promised to get something for their money. When Trika was writting on her blog your site was saying “Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP) candidates are required to pass one current Microsoft Certification exam* that provides a valid and reliable measure of technical proficiency and expertise. *A current exam is any exam that has not been retired.” (this is from your site date 2008-01-12, January 12). So MCTS who have passed first exam before you have changed that are MCP also (in full credentials meaning) and you should ship them free welcome kits for MCP! I wonder why no one started class action yet. I don’t buy explanation that there are two kinds of MCP - sounds like cheap excuse for the mess done by stupid decision without thinking abut consequences. Sad it is not the first or last one:(

i would love to win the voucher in draw. Exciting feed thanks

please correct the e-mail in my provious thread:)

Me, thanks for the repost--I took a look at the page you referred to (http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcp/requirements.mspx)--which hasn t been updated since November 21, 2007--and it looks accurate to me. It does say that "a current exam is any exam that has not been retired" However, just below that, it also says that the exam must be chosen from a list of tracks, among which MCTS is *not* included. So I don t see any false promise or fraud here. BTW, are you the poster by the handle of "wrz" on Trika s blog? Sounds like your writing style. If so, it looks like your question was answered on that thread too: http://blogs.msdn.com/trika/archive/2008/01/09/so-an-mcp-and-an-mcts-walk-in-to-a-bar.aspx In any event--it sounds like you were genuinely confused by the content on that page, and for that I apologize. I will ask for it to be clarified.

Count me in...

Would love free voucher, but I don t RSS.

It doesn t say "However, just below that, it also says that the exam must be chosen from a list of tracks, among which MCTS is *not* included." There is statement "Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP) candidates are required to pass one current Microsoft Certification exam* that provides a valid and reliable measure of technical proficiency and expertise." and "*A current exam is any exam that has not been retired." Besides that I see links to some certificates (yes without MCTS and MCITP) but link can not change meaning of words "ANY" and "NOT RETIRED". You could say that MCTS or MCITP doesn t give MCP in FAQ but there wasn t word about change. Up to date when trika has made her post there wasn t ANY word from MS that was stating MCTS/MCITP doesn t give you MCP. Your GENERAL POLICY and site was saying that every exam gives you MCP! If you have changed that policy you should inform people about it - you haven t done that. That is fraud! There is some hint in MCITP FAQ that MCP wasn t "affected" with new certificates "Q. What should I do if I am an MCP? A. Your MCP credential is not affected by the new certifications. If you are interested in becoming certified in Visual Studio 2005, SQL Server 2005, or BizTalk Server 2006, please review the credentials requirements." People were confused why they haven t got MCP for first MCTS exam and still are. I am MCP but if I weren t believe me I would try to force you with legal procedures to fulfill promised you have made. I am almost 100% sure you would lose in any court in any civilized country.